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Visio Filo JP Loops complicated 🤓

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Jypeka
France
Violin:
Jypeka 1,105 jams

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On a essayé de jouer ensemble avec Filo 10000km en visio live mais ça ne fonctionne pas ... j’entends sa voix mais pas sa guitare ... s'il y a des francophones qui peuvent nous aider ... il entend ma voix et le violon ... donc le temps qu'il bidouille avec sa carte son j'ai enregistré ça avec le looper ... d'ailleur il doit rajouter sa guitare dessus We tried to play together with Filo 10000km in live video but it ...
StJray
10000km en visio ça me semble beaucoup non? :D
Du coup, j'ai pensé à SonoBus et à JamKazam ...
En tk c'est bien à mon oreille ... :) +3
Jypeka
Jypeka :D Là je vais me coucher
un de ces jour je t’appelle en visio ... qu'on en cause ? +0
GlezBass
Good idea and good try, it has already been discussed in the forums about being able to play online but it is complicated by latency.
https://www.wikiloops.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=2603
https://www.wikiloops.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=2564
https://www.wikiloops.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1742

Sometimes it is better to record a video in different sessions....

Anyway it's a very cool jam!!;) +1
Jypeka
Jypeka Thanks, yes but we don't understand... see you I hear it, see in MP ??? +1
GlezBass
GlezBass MP? what is MP? +0
Jypeka
Jypeka top right envelope +1
MicGuitare
Excellent JP!Belle inspiration et super son moderne du violon:) +1
Jypeka
Jypeka Merci ;)
Le roi du looper c'est lui :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wm08kMvb3U +0
Wade
I understand your frustration, but this is why this site works and live jamming doesn't. The timing will always be off. It's not just that one instrument doesn't come through.

What you've posted is wonderful and I'm sure Filo will be very pleased to add to it! +1
Jypeka
Jypeka Thank you Wade, it's not easy these stories to play live :) +1
Wade
Wade The reason is simple and just physics plus some potential problems most computers have. The signal can't travel faster than the speed of light...which is very fast, but not fast enough. Signals go though "routers"and are seldom/never direct. So if Filo hits a note and it has to travel 10,000 miles to get to you that's a 50 ms delay. When you hear it then play with it the signal goes back to Filo and he hears what you played at 100 ms out of sync from what he played... and that's not including and computer issues! Most good musicians find it an awful handicap. It's only good for very slow tracks where a fraction of a second difference isn't as likely to be noticed.

A good example is when you see a foreign correspondent on TV gives a live response to something the person 10,000 miles away in the studio has asked them. You wait with them nodding or smiling for what seems ages until they answer. That's the time it took for the signal to reach them, for them to hear it, then the time it took to get back to the studio. +1
Jypeka
Jypeka Yes thank you Wade for these details ... I thought that by Facebook messenger in video there was less latency ... but there is nothing apparently :) +1
Wade
Wade Latency is often just what you have in a computer where there is a delay in processing a lot of information, so that's added on top of the Speed of light physics. When you watch that foreign correspondent it often seems like around 3 seconds. The more detailed information the longer it takes. +0