what tunes at a live jam ?
I'd prefer to be involved in jams that are 100% original, and fortunately have friends that think likewise, so we don't play "tunes" or "standards" (similar to what happens here on wikiloops but "in the moment" ). I do go out and occasionally join in a jam where there are pop tunes being played. The fun thing for me is that I haven't listened to pop music for 30 years, so it's all new to me and jam the same as with anything new.
It's understandable that you want to fit and sound OK, so may want to practice or listen to some things that you think would be likely to be played....I can't help you with that (maybe others can?).
Here's a really good exercise: start playing along with anything you hear on the radio. Don't necessarily make it just pop, do rock, jazz, classical ethnic, blues...almost anything. This exercise has several key ingredients:
1. To become a good listener and not only hear what's happening, but anticipate what's coming (so you could play along). If you feel that you are fumbling around don't get frustrated. Put down the guitar and use your voice. This part of the exercise is about your hearing, understanding and anticipating...you don't necessarily need you to play.
2. Once you can hear what you want to play it's a matter of playing it. This can open a huge can of worms for many players who are used to just playing finger memory riffs. The challenge is to become one with your instrument so that it becomes your voice. In other words, you play what you would sing. That's the real you and not just a bunch of BS licks. You may want to actually sing what you are trying to play and just use one note at a time. Got to be truthful about this...can take many years to become one with your instrument. Won't happen any sooner than when you start trying.
If you've got an ear and some talent this can put you on the road to becoming a proficient improviser very quickly.
Edited by Wade on 08-04-2016 04:57
As well,blues tunes are easy enough for me to play through, as I have a pretty good grounding, and musical vocabulary in that genre.
I don't know anybody in the small town we have moved to who plays at all, and would like to fit in to anything(within reason) I stumble upon. Just looking for a starting point as it seems to me every jam I have heard about or have seen online is based on someone else's songs. :)
thanks for the reply Wade, but I think you missed the point. I may not be a great player, but I am not a novice, and in the past have mostly jammed based on nothing more than pick a key(and sometimes not even that)
Very sorry if this seemed an insult, was not intended that way. Probably well over 90% of people I've jammed with just play finger memory stuff within the appropriate chord. Very few can play a novel melodic line and sing it at the same time. It's not a matter of vocabulary...in fact it's the opposite. There's only a few dozen people on this site (that I know of) who are one with their instrument (can play whatever they hear in their heads or fitting with what someone else is playing no matter what the genera).
If you're talking jamming what could be better than developing the chops to play anything that comes your way?
When I go to a jam I'm never the leader, although I might be the most experienced player there (bound to be the oldest HA!). If possible I'd encourage the weakest player to start something (song or whatever) then give them support with harmonies and try to get some bounce in the rhythm or groove happening. Most of the time they will hear and follow while still "leading". This makes for a very good jam as it's not a "cutting contest" and everybody feels good about what they play.
Still probably useless information that you weren't looking for, but may work for someone else (these posts are not just about us)...
Edited by Wade on 08-04-2016 06:13
I think the most obvious option (easy answer for me) would be to seek out a blues band to jam with if possible.
Just so you can become acclimated to the live environment again.
If that’s not an option then it’s hard for me to imagine any band that could not jam out on Red House or maybe Stormy Monday if you have the opportunity to sit in.
Having said that, I’ve been out of the loop for several years and like you, I’m old.:)
So I could be totally wrong.
Good luck Jeff.
I used "All along the watch tower", key of Am; "Honky tonk woman" in G; "Suzie-Q" in Em.
Of course there are thousands of great songs if you know the right singer, e.g. "Venus", "The Letter", "The Healer" etc.
But be careful: even a known guitarist can't win against a wrong bassist.
In all cases you really need to work on a repertoire on a weekly base before you step on a stage. :)
Avoid stages that have a risk to give you bad experiences.
Edited by Neronick on 08-04-2016 09:20
In my years of going to various jam nights, along with Mustang Sally, often-played 'blues' songs I've encountered are:
Hard To Handle (Black Crowes version)
Stuck In The Middle
Superstition (not so much at a blues jam!)
Honky Tonk Woman
Folsom Prison Blues
You should find at many jams the songs are relatively simple from a structural perspective following standard 12 or 16-bar structures. Just like the easy-to-jam loops on here are usually the most-popular because they're the most-accessible, you'll find most jam nights keep it easy so everyone stands a chance!
Edited by mpointon on 08-04-2016 09:35
Not to worry, none taken I understand what you are saying.
I think Neronick hit the nail on the head though with "a secure repertoire"
I see it as a starting point as I have no interest(or patience) in doing note for note covers.
some interesting, and also some obvious choices here
The other route is to practice different skills mostly recognizing and classifying different chord progressions and rhythms, but even other ear and listening exercises.
Edited by Tofzegrit on 09-04-2016 00:12
I have never had enough interest to copy somebody note for note, but thought a general outline on some tunes would be useful just in case.
Edited by DannyK on 09-04-2016 05:00
Chord progression (learn the Nashville number system to facilitate transposing)
Hooks and characteristic riffs/licks
I couldn't agree more. Nothing more easier than saying "play a i-iv-v in Bb."
At most sessions you'll meet groups not single musicians. A fantastic song to perform (with leadsheet) is Dylan's "Wheels on fire".
Good memories, sad memories. Now I am too old to invest time in "cover"-song... :)
Edited by Neronick on 09-04-2016 12:07
In our local music store they have a list of songs they do not want to hear in the practice rooms remember Stairway to Heaven was on the list, so may be best avoided :)
Edited by TeeGee on 10-04-2016 16:23
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