How to get motivated (when not)
Having contact with other musicians about these sorts of things can have several benefits: 1. you're not alone in having this problem. 2. Someone else may have figured out a method that suits you.
I have also tried "forced creativity" - as in just pushing through until something good comes out....rarely works and can be real tiresome :p
Lately i've been trying to play different styles than i normally do, which seems to work, at least a little :D
Would be nice to hear about other peoples experiences on this :)
Edited by eGiL on 24-02-2017 08:39
First, "frustration" is not an emotion but a decision. You'll understand this idea if you accept that love is no emotion, too. It is a daily decision.
If someone is a believer he needs a daily decision, too.
Overriding frustration is easy to do: Do the contrary of the right things.
If you have no motivation to learn something, take a kitchen clock and let it ring after 15 minutes because you are NOT ALLOWED to learn longer...
In a musical context do the right exercices in the right order. To leave a plateau, identify your key exercise.
But to be honest, I have never met any musician in real life who said loudly to me that he is unhappy with his skills. The real wonder is always what anyone can do now with his actual skills and motivation.
I must concede that i sort of adapted this advice when i switched to guitar ... and it worked for me most of the time ! i have mind liberating routines like some chords progressions or rhythmic exercises which help me building new confidence :)
I don't have any magic answers to overcoming this. Trying a different style or deliberately setting unnatural constraints (e.g avoid playing fifths) has helped me in the past. OTOH. the approach that worked for me last time was to 'find a thing' that I was completely comfortable playing and could actually finish. Listening back to stuff I've recorded (particularly remixes by others) can also help in reminding me that it's not all bad!
Edited by GrooveEnth on 24-02-2017 19:20
First time I've met this after 2/3 uploads per day in the beginning... Panic !! 2 years later, having a break is the best way.
.Another side is wanting/feeling to play in a track and not getting satisfaction...
.Switching style is a good medecine too, I usually try to play some metal in order to reboot my mood
Its good to know I am not alone.
For me when the creativity, desire or drive is no where to be found
then I practice. That usually consists of running scales, tapping
and playing around with jazz chords.
Nothing will bum me out more than sitting down with a track
that I really like and want to play on but just cannot get a groove happening.
If I stop there then the rest of my day sucks. So I practice the basics. Be it
with another track, drum machine or metronome. I guess I try to make something
positive out of a negative.
The desired end result of my madness is that when the creativity and desire
returns the practice will help me to better express what I play when combined
with desire and emotion.
Unfortunately my method does not always make the desire and creativity
magically return. Especially as quickly as I desire.
Sometimes we just have to ride the storm out.
so I decided to give up playing "for a while" whatever that means ?
Edited by Kermit on 25-02-2017 10:08
Work has caused me to stop playing over the last year, but I'm trying!!
Keep the faith and upload when you can. Have fun and rock on!
But it's my own problem with the most things. If i do a thing i want to do it perfect or don't do it. :(
Then i must rethink about why i make music and then i came back to the point "I want to have fun while i play my instrument" I do it for fun and not to beat every one who is a better player. I have this problem with the most things i do not only with my instrument. :|
This quote helps me a lot <3
what i'm trying to say is that for those of us without too much skill, enjoyment can be gotten just from aiding and abetting the clever guys in their creative journeys.
contrary to common opinion, musos are not all ego led (as wikifest regularly demonstrates) and the warm fuzzy feeling of being part of someone else creativity, is reward enough.
OK here's an old guy perspective that you younger players don't have as part of your reality (yet). It may however be a productive and positive approach to music. At 70 I'm continually asking myself "how much longer can I play music?" It may be a race between arthritis and dementia to see which one takes me down first, or just the grim reaper. I know that sounds rather depressing and yet it's an inspiration for me to enjoy and be "present" in making music for as long as that may be possible. Although it may not seem/sound like it I'm 100% committed whenever playing. Doesn't mean I don't get frustrated when I screw up, just means that it seems to be happening less often as I go deeper into the music and leave my ego behind. Being in "the zone" for as long as possible is its own reward. Being able to share music with others (here) is another reward, yet doesn't require a big fan base or 50 thumbs per tune. Playing one note at a time means that I almost always want to be playing with others. I do envy Keyboard and guitarists in being able to have it all (chords, melody, rhythm, and even sing at the same time!).
So for me, the key to keeping inspired is just appreciating what I can do in whatever time is left, and that this site exists and it's possible to play with so many fine musicians.
It would certainly leave a big hole in my life if this site ceased to exist.
Is a very interesting topic. I interrupted the play guitar for over 15 years. I used to play classical pieces and a lot of Portuguese popular music. Together with friends we sang on weekends during the whole night around beer, wine, whisky and snacks.
At that time, I don't remember frustration.
Later, during a long period of my life I was moving around all weekend from place to place supporting my young kids’ sports activities. Had little time available for music. Currently children are adults around thirties. Also, I don't remember frustration, although I felt the lack of music.
About 3 years ago, I slowed my professional activity, and only drink wine. I have more time available now and my desire to play guitar returned. I discovered jazz and I was fascinated. The possibility of being able to create and each theme can always have something new, really fascinated me.
When I found out the wikiloops and the big amount of souls around the world who play and share their creations for fun, excited me. I went back to scales, modes, chords, arpégios, .... and I started using the 7th, and 9th 11th 13th, 6th etc ... fantastic!! The music shown other colors.
It was important sharing and listening to what others were doing and ... I learned a lot from my friends loopers, … and I am still learning. I never had the experience of playing with a band in the past (luckily my youngest kid did it for a period, now his professional activity does not allow).
There is a law of the universe that says the following: each new step in the evolution requires an increasing expenditure of resources.
I think this principle is well visible in the music. The more you evolve playing an instrument greater will be the effort spent and always with a smaller evolving speed.
Here arises a kind of frustration. How to fight it? Maybe with perseverance and support from their peers.
Here the wikiloopers are a great help, motivation from peers.
Another type of frustration derived from lack of creativity, where you always must create something new and different, and it doesn’t appear. It is a lot more complex.
Among a huge number of factors I believe that atherosclerosis has big responsibilities here too, by not allowing the brain blood abundant irrigation LOL.
However, change, do new things, new experiences, listen to different music, diverge, disagree, … it helps ...
"No attitude & no BS community where i've learned SO MUCH !! That + a daily stream of high quality mixes i can join in at any time, what's not to like ?"