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Other websites like Wikiloops?

posted on #1
Mnas09
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Hello everyone. I'm a long time user of wikiloops and I absolutely love it! I'm curious, are there any other sites like wikiloops?

Thanks for any info! 🤟
posted on #2
Ernie440 Supporter
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Mnas09 wrote:
Hello everyone. I'm a long time user of wikiloops and I absolutely love it! I'm curious, are there any other sites like wikiloops?

Thanks for any info! 🤟


Haven't looked lately, but I've done searches over the years since I've been here and I've never seen anything like it! Most to me, were very unappealing, having to download software and whatnot. Pain in the rumpski! :D
posted on #3
TeeGee Supporter
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...and Ernie is not playing on any of these so that has closed the argument shut ;)
posted on #4
Ernie440 Supporter
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TeeGee wrote:
...and Ernie is not playing on any of these so that has closed the argument shut ;)


LOL ... pretty much, yep!! :D
posted on #5
Ernie440 Supporter
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Not sure how it's done but when I do a search, say "top online musical jam websites" .. you'll get a top 10 list and Wikiloops isn't there which I don't understand (I guess maybe you have to apply or something or pay :O).. I've looked at some (again not recently) and they turned out to be crap. I guess Wikiloops is a musicians dirty little secret because it's pretty cool IMHO.
posted on #6
Mnas09
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I haven't found anything worth while either. I am super grateful for finding WL years ago!
posted on #7
Blazer Supporter
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FWIW having researched a number of online collaborative web sites and having listened to a good number of uploads I am of the opinion that you won’t find the same quality of tracks on those that you will on WL’s it doesn’t mean of course that there aren’t some good things out there but the sheer quality of a lot of the players on WL’s is quite remarkable. And remember Ernie isn’t in on the other sites either so I guess that’s a slam dunk for WL’s right?😀
posted on #8
Mnas09
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Definitely won't find a quality bass track like ERNIE's!!! :W
posted on #9
MikeB Supporter
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I am slowing working on getting a small 'online collabs' workshop up and running. The basic idea idea can be read here using this brainstorm'd doc:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FP6LFGA0KpqeMZFaVrqQ4D8YVcGLqnwDViYHLrK0Z3Q/edit?usp=sharing

The gist of it is that I come up with some tunes that I'd like to put out there at bandcamp, maybe there are others who'd like to work on some tunes a couple bars past the fun hobby level. I've purchased the domains, the web space, and slowly, work is progressing towards opening up to some testing. I don't expect this to be a full time deal, just something to try.
posted on #10
Mnas09
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Thats a pretty sweet idea MikeB! I'm a graphic designer so if you ever need any help just shout! Also I haven't checked bandcamp out yet. Is that just a platform to release your tunes?
posted on #11
MikeB Supporter
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Bandcamp is very cool. Check it out at bandcamp.com. Lots of small business music organized by genre.
posted on #12
Bradford Supporter
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New member here sharing my past experiences. I feel that each sites has it's own personality, somewhat dictated by each app's design. I started with Kompoz in 2013. Kompoz format puts the template's owner in charge of the entire song process. You upload stems and they hopefully get accepted. a few years later I participated in a beta run of SongTree which was a far more open format where I ended up hanging out for many years. Felt more free there to make anything I felt like. Last year I started playing with BandLab. I liked the interface more and there were some folks there that I vibed with. Then one of the members mentioned something about WL. WL seems to be even more my vibe. More like Kompoz in that it's more old school (like me) and perhaps because Kompoz and WL are paid memberships and ST and BL are free, the main audience is more inline with my tastes, experience and approach. Not to say that people without any format musical experience can't create fresh stuff with today's apps but the overall amount of content on the free sites that doesn't match up with my vibe doesn't make me feel at home as much as a site where the majority of the content inspires me. Felt at home here rather immediately. Thank you all for that.
posted on #13
TeeGee Supporter
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Obviously I am slightly biased, but I had a look around in the past, but for a friendly family feel without flaming, bullying and negative stuff that the web is full with, I don't think you'll find a better place. I am definitely not an expert, but my feeling is that the music quality here is really good, you listen to some of the Wikiloops albums and im thinking "Holy Shizzle is this real??! These are amateurs???" So for me, no reason to look anywhere else, it's as good as it can be.
posted on #14
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There is, to my knowledge, another community of musicians whose mode of operation is similar to that of Wikiloops but whose objectives are broader.
Especially in terms of music distribution.
I consider Wikiloops as a good way to "jammer" between quality musicians.
But the jam remains what it is. Playful.
Kompoz.com is a community of musicians whose goal is to achieve successful musical projects.
All these projects are based on compositions in different styles of music.
Until we reach a master’s degree that will be aimed at broadcasting on platforms (SoundBlend, Bandcamp, Spotify, etc...).
It is not the greed that motivates us but above all the possibility of disseminating a project to a wider audience.
The amount of membership in this community is not exorbitant in view of the return that everyone can derive from it.
My testimony does not question my attachment to Wikiloops.
Our community remains an essential pole for me to exchange with other talented musicians in order to share convivial moments.
I joined Kompoz.com simply to benefit from an outward opening.
Moreover, I remain a fan and a member of Wikiloops, respecting the confidentiality rules that we are asked to follow. :W
posted on #15
mdn Supporter
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bassman78fr wrote:
There is, to my knowledge, another community of musicians whose mode of operation is similar to that of Wikiloops but whose objectives are broader.
Especially in terms of music distribution.
I consider Wikiloops as a good way to "jammer" between quality musicians.
But the jam remains what it is. Playful.
Kompoz.com is a community of musicians whose goal is to achieve successful musical projects.
All these projects are based on compositions in different styles of music.
Until we reach a master’s degree that will be aimed at broadcasting on platforms (SoundBlend, Bandcamp, Spotify, etc...).
It is not the greed that motivates us but above all the possibility of disseminating a project to a wider audience.
The amount of membership in this community is not exorbitant in view of the return that everyone can derive from it.
My testimony does not question my attachment to Wikiloops.
Our community remains an essential pole for me to exchange with other talented musicians in order to share convivial moments.
I joined Kompoz.com simply to benefit from an outward opening.
Moreover, I remain a fan and a member of Wikiloops, respecting the confidentiality rules that we are asked to follow. :W


I think what makes wikiloops unique is how supportive all the musicians are of each other. I've been here several months now and I can recall nothing but positive comments and encouragement across the board. It's somewhat of a wonderful anomaly. :)
posted on #16
Wade Supporter
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Like others here I've dabbled in other sites and really appreciate that they are aimed at wider audiences. Kompoz is OK, but the way one has to access and work with tracks is anything but intuitive. Seems like most of the others sites are set up for finished products rather than cooperative efforts.

WL has wonderful musicians and it's super easy to add to tracks. The limitation is that it's mostly unavailable to the general listening public. When a radio station was mooted I'd hoped that it would be external. That wasn't happening, and we still have no window to the outside. All of this wonderful music just sits and usually within a week or so is buried under the weight of all the new tracks. What a shame!

Soundcloud has a few good tracks and producers, but very few compared to the massive amount of pop copy cat crap. It seems to be a magnet for dreamers who think they are going to be "discovered".

At WL none of us has those delusions about what we post. We are a musicians monastical society walled off from those who might want to hear what we have to offer.

I'm sort of happy with it the way it is, but still dream of a window to the outside world.
posted on #17
zedders Supporter
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I think almost the opposite. A window to the outside world could wreck this place IMO. What I like is that it's all musicians here with no regular "audience" that needs to be impressed. No pressure other than to try and inspire other musicians which is a very positive mindset to have. I haven't played as much for many years or been so keen to improve. :)
posted on #18
MikeB Supporter
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I'll make a final shout out to my workshop label idea. Interested loopers can direct some reading time to https://muselib.org/forum/ .

Registered users can post. No guest posting.

My 2 cents: wikiloops is a unique place to meet online folks and have fun musically or just escape for a spell if that's your need. Other pure fun collab sites pale in comparison.

So, check out my label forum and take discussion there if you like.
posted on #19
rootshell Supporter
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I really enjoy Wikiloops...my only comparison would be to live jamming with friends, as I haven't ventured onto other music collab sites. I really enjoy the format here, very friendly people, and an amazing pool of musicians. For me, I feel like I've been learning and having fun all at the same time...it's a win win :) :W
posted on #20
JoeOnBass Supporter
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I did some searching and honestly, I haven't found another website remotely close to this, though I feel the members here have a lot to do with that. Some websites feature a potentially younger crowd, I think we folks here are more seasoned. It's been a real benefit to my playing, without a doubt.
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