I'm projecting that AI will eventually and indirectly put more focus back on live performances. I have supporting thoughts I may share. Anyone feel the same?
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A joke?. However, as pure conjecture. An interested bunch of code saavy musicians might use such procedures to guide improvised concerts according to AI. A laptop could cough up chord progressions, display lead sheets on walls, time entire show with lights, and display neat pseudo notation at algorithmic intervals for soloist inspiration. Amazing and disturbing at the same time. I'm sure other game directions could be thought up by app developers.
Live performances are already very dependent on technology, sounds already very fake (unless you go to a small local venue) so I bet there will be more and more concerts that will depend on AI. Even the audience will be AI :D They'll replace us with some AI generated clones... 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' may be our future. Looking forward :D
You are right. Eufory for Al is all over. But i beleave Al cant replace live music in full and at least cant replace our pleasure to play live music.
I share Krasimir's opinion. People love people :D. In order for AI to become fully established in music, it has to guide people into concert halls and make them believe that the virtual musicians are now their new demigods. A more than major marketing task.
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Yes. Yes.
[b]abuitremorem wrote:
I share Krasimir's opinion. People love people :D. In order for AI to become fully established in music, it has to guide people into concert halls and make them believe that the virtual musicians are now their new demigods. A more than major marketing task.
I share Krasimir's opinion. People love people :D. In order for AI to become fully established in music, it has to guide people into concert halls and make them believe that the virtual musicians are now their new demigods. A more than major marketing task.
Holographic Recreation (permanent venue)
ABBA Arena, Pudding Mill Lane, London E15
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This is something like IMAX, a niche market that will never replace actual humans. Interesting...I might go see a Grateful Dead holography if...
ABBA Arena, Pudding Mill Lane, London E15
https://abbavoyage.com/
This is something like IMAX, a niche market that will never replace actual humans. Interesting...I might go see a Grateful Dead holography if...
Unfortunatly simillar to all in our life ,Al is already deeply in music.Question is how deep will go and how fast will affect live music.[youtube]nW7r7fjwVBY[/youtube]
Krasimir wrote:
Unfortunatly simillar to all in our life ,Al is already deeply in music.Question is how deep will go and how fast will affect live music.[youtube]nW7r7fjwVBY[/youtube]
Unfortunatly simillar to all in our life ,Al is already deeply in music.Question is how deep will go and how fast will affect live music.[youtube]nW7r7fjwVBY[/youtube]
But why don't I feel like trying out the AI listed in the video?
Tried the OGIE's series on youtube? Pregenerated works spanning several hours.
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I'm projecting that AI will eventually and indirectly put more focus back on live performances. I have supporting thoughts I may share. Anyone feel the same?
I'm projecting that AI will eventually and indirectly put more focus back on live performances. I have supporting thoughts I may share. Anyone feel the same?
'Perfect Is Easy' and for that reason my shtick is drunk idiot in basement.
I'm curious to see where it all goes. I feel, for the youth who grow up with social media apps, there's less in person interaction to begin with, which may weigh towards less in-person musical events or the need for them. me, as an older person, I highly prefer live music but if we're talking future, the older gen is being phased out and we'll see how the younger gen drives this musical AI trAIn :)
Back a few years ago, when I would often be at a bar venue catching live music on the weekends, I noticed vocoders and auto-tuners popping up in the usual mix during breaks, and it was rather odd and off-putting. The first incursion of AI in the mass market.
Now, we have the first wave of computer generated music emulation that nears human expression (but does not eclipse). Huge apps driven by teams of programmers that seek to come up with all the magic formulas for catchy pop and dance music. They’ll put the algorithms into a giant BINGO machine of an app. AND, harvest the best results for product resale. Creating derivative permutations of hits that will no doubt replace music in some places, but not all. Restaurants, bars, supermarkets - anywhere cheaper than to license actual human music.
Will these AI apps be directed jazz, classical, and creative directions in pop and rock?
I doubt it. At some point, coders hit ‘the breaks’ just like everyone else. A programmer contemplating the time and effort it would take to recreate the infinitely complex expressive creativity in jazz and classical music won't commit to coding that, and it just won’t add up to a go.
Dance venues will likely be the first place pro-level AI appears. Replacing DJs during the week, as venue owners think, ’I can use the AI during the week and save a bundle, and hire the hotshot kid DJs for weekend work’.
Now, we have the first wave of computer generated music emulation that nears human expression (but does not eclipse). Huge apps driven by teams of programmers that seek to come up with all the magic formulas for catchy pop and dance music. They’ll put the algorithms into a giant BINGO machine of an app. AND, harvest the best results for product resale. Creating derivative permutations of hits that will no doubt replace music in some places, but not all. Restaurants, bars, supermarkets - anywhere cheaper than to license actual human music.
Will these AI apps be directed jazz, classical, and creative directions in pop and rock?
I doubt it. At some point, coders hit ‘the breaks’ just like everyone else. A programmer contemplating the time and effort it would take to recreate the infinitely complex expressive creativity in jazz and classical music won't commit to coding that, and it just won’t add up to a go.
Dance venues will likely be the first place pro-level AI appears. Replacing DJs during the week, as venue owners think, ’I can use the AI during the week and save a bundle, and hire the hotshot kid DJs for weekend work’.
You know... I happen to be spending a lot of time thinking about AI and how this is going to change things, including some own experiments and insights into what it feels like to probe the potentials.
I'll not write a book on that here now, but if you ask for my two cent... well, I also believe the many consumer type situations where people like to have "some music" as they shop, work out, study or whatever is highly likely to be satisfied by AI composed and produced music. I believe the amount of AI generated piano music on Spotify is already huge to a point where a portion of their revenue is cashed out to AI composers instead of humans.
I also do not believe it will stop short of "niche" genres like Jazz. AI will end up producing the next album of any band that quit touring three decades ago - there will be someone who wants to thrill with the new Michal Jackson single, or the first track that sounds like the lost session tape of some Miles Davis show, or another Mozart piece.
As the aging generations have the money and might buy that stuff, it will be produced. Imagine Elvis and Tupac having their AI powered comeback... mark my words and count the months, for real.
Look at the level of deepfake AI is capable of today, and wait three more years, this will get really really crazy soon.
Whether and how that capability will have an impact on social events... we'll have to see, but it would be surprising if it had none.
Not sure if there will be high demand for studio musicians anytime soon, maybe we will see live performed music turned into some rather special cultural event.
But let's be honest, the live band at the pub around the corner has not been successfully happening for over a decade (at least where I was at, and we used to tour trying), so, maybe that is a trend that has been happening which may now be boosted a bit.
People will continue to love a lot of bass played back on proper 15"+ speakers.
That will not change.
And they will still notice and enjoy watching a really good band locking in with each other whilst making music, as there is some magic in that.
I'll not write a book on that here now, but if you ask for my two cent... well, I also believe the many consumer type situations where people like to have "some music" as they shop, work out, study or whatever is highly likely to be satisfied by AI composed and produced music. I believe the amount of AI generated piano music on Spotify is already huge to a point where a portion of their revenue is cashed out to AI composers instead of humans.
I also do not believe it will stop short of "niche" genres like Jazz. AI will end up producing the next album of any band that quit touring three decades ago - there will be someone who wants to thrill with the new Michal Jackson single, or the first track that sounds like the lost session tape of some Miles Davis show, or another Mozart piece.
As the aging generations have the money and might buy that stuff, it will be produced. Imagine Elvis and Tupac having their AI powered comeback... mark my words and count the months, for real.
Look at the level of deepfake AI is capable of today, and wait three more years, this will get really really crazy soon.
Whether and how that capability will have an impact on social events... we'll have to see, but it would be surprising if it had none.
Not sure if there will be high demand for studio musicians anytime soon, maybe we will see live performed music turned into some rather special cultural event.
But let's be honest, the live band at the pub around the corner has not been successfully happening for over a decade (at least where I was at, and we used to tour trying), so, maybe that is a trend that has been happening which may now be boosted a bit.
People will continue to love a lot of bass played back on proper 15"+ speakers.
That will not change.
And they will still notice and enjoy watching a really good band locking in with each other whilst making music, as there is some magic in that.
i'm still waiting for an AI chart topper. jeez, a Grammy being awarded to an AI song/band/persona...i hadn't thought about that, but who knows! :o
I’m looking forward to some AI. Namely the bot side of things. Like using bitwig and Ableton to compose pieces. Especially, the ability to draw notation graphs and link them to effect modulator knob ‘rides’. Controlling clip launching and scene playback with scripts and GUI controls instead of manual usage. These things haven't been coded yet. Even more so, the idea of a clip based looping multi-track hardware recorder can get me oddly giddy.
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